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Old 02-11-2018, 10:53 PM   #71
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At least the parents cared enough about hygiene to ask and told the kids to wash when they got back to the room. Not ideal, but better than clueless parents not caring or worse - smiling and laughing about how cute their germ-muffins are.

Quite frankly, no one should ever rely on anybody else's hygiene to protect them on a cruise ship or anywhere else. I can guarantee many adults didn’t wash their hands before touching the elevator buttons. . .

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Old 02-11-2018, 11:06 PM   #72
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At least the parents cared enough about hygiene to ask and told the kids to wash when they got back to the room. Not ideal, but better than clueless parents not caring or worse - smiling and laughing about how cute their germ-muffins are.

Quite frankly, no one should ever rely on anybody else's hygiene to protect them on a cruise ship or anywhere else. I can guarantee many adults didnít wash their hands before touching the elevator buttons. . .

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This.

Assume everyone is gross. I ride the train 3 days per week to Boston. I've seen it all. My favorite (G rated) was the passenger clipping her fingernails in a shoulder to shoulder full car. Classic!

The other stories I cannot say on this forum- they would make you shudder.

Leaving for a cruise in a few days. Flu is currently going around my school with a couple of children so fingers are crossed we make it to the end of the week unscathed. If not, we miss our cruise. No big deal.

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Old 02-12-2018, 11:27 AM   #73
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Sorry you were unwell, it is the worst on vacation.

I have taken many, many cruises. My policy - I just try not to touch anything...no handrails (having great balance helps), use elbow or key card in the elevator for the buttons, and I do not go to buffets but that is because I am not fond of the ship buffets anyway. Sanitize before eating (since you have used a communal menu) and just use your own pen to sign for purchases. I don't think I have ever been in a public bathroom on a ship - my stateroom is really not that far. In a pinch I always remember that hand sanitizer can kill some things, but it does NOT kill Noro, it is the friction of vigorously rubbing your hands together which can help you shed it off your hands (similar to hand washing which is always best).

So if you sanitize and just do a perfunctory rub together - you have done nothing to help yourself. Spray it on and vigorously rub together. I know people figure this is overkill, or my whole trip is spent worrying, but it is not that way at all. All of those steps are second nature. It takes about 30 extra seconds to vigorously rub your hands, and about 5 minutes to go back to your cabin. I just know if I touch something then I make sure I take a step to alleviate it. No big deal. As usual I will add my disclaimer that I have no kids and I have no idea how it would be to travel with small children. It is always myself and one other adult. They have learned to just go with my anti-germ regimen.
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Old 02-12-2018, 12:18 PM   #74
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This.

Assume everyone is gross. I ride the train 3 days per week to Boston. I've seen it all. My favorite (G rated) was the passenger clipping her fingernails in a shoulder to shoulder full car. Classic!

The other stories I cannot say on this forum- they would make you shudder.

Leaving for a cruise in a few days. Flu is currently going around my school with a couple of children so fingers are crossed we make it to the end of the week unscathed. If not, we miss our cruise. No big deal.

Stephen
I know a cruise ship is a much higher risk for contagion, but probably not any worse than a major city transit system!

I wash my hands frequently on a cruise ship and always use the wipes - and common sense. At the same time, my parents let me roll in pig sties and toxic waste as a kid (metaphorically speaking) so I think I have a generally strong immune system.

For those who don't (for whatever reason), I get that people need to be more cautious, and are naturally more sensitive to those who obviously aren't.

There is also heightened anxiety around being sick on a cruise ship because it's an expensive vacation (especially on DCL) and your personal freedoms will be restricted for the safety of others. Nobody wants that. Add that to the increasing fear of germs in general (and stronger germs out there, too), and I get the anxiety.

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Old 02-12-2018, 01:01 PM   #75
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Sorry you were unwell, it is the worst on vacation.

I have taken many, many cruises. My policy - I just try not to touch anything...no handrails (having great balance helps), use elbow or key card in the elevator for the buttons, and I do not go to buffets but that is because I am not fond of the ship buffets anyway. Sanitize before eating (since you have used a communal menu) and just use your own pen to sign for purchases. I don't think I have ever been in a public bathroom on a ship - my stateroom is really not that far. In a pinch I always remember that hand sanitizer can kill some things, but it does NOT kill Noro, it is the friction of vigorously rubbing your hands together which can help you shed it off your hands (similar to hand washing which is always best).

So if you sanitize and just do a perfunctory rub together - you have done nothing to help yourself. Spray it on and vigorously rub together. I know people figure this is overkill, or my whole trip is spent worrying, but it is not that way at all. All of those steps are second nature. It takes about 30 extra seconds to vigorously rub your hands, and about 5 minutes to go back to your cabin. I just know if I touch something then I make sure I take a step to alleviate it. No big deal. As usual I will add my disclaimer that I have no kids and I have no idea how it would be to travel with small children. It is always myself and one other adult. They have learned to just go with my anti-germ regimen.
The doctor - walking into the hospital room after one of our kids was born - gets some hand sanitizer and says to me, "You know this doesn't really do anything. "
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:39 PM   #76
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The doctor - walking into the hospital room after one of our kids was born - gets some hand sanitizer and says to me, "You know this doesn't really do anything. "
Just like washing your hands for 5 seconds does nothing ... in order for either to work you have to create some vigorous friction and get the germs off your hands. But people seem in a hurry and don't want to bother. I just take the extra time to do it
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:58 PM   #77
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I'm so sorry you got sick. My husband, daughter and I used to love to cruise in January or February. Until two years in a row we contracted Influenza A on a DCL and it was flat out miserable. We stopped cruising in January/February and now cruise in early October. Thankfully that's before flu season starts to pick up. Changing to October seems to have helped. Fingers crossed!

I honestly think the dining room, buffet, and hand rails are some of the main culprits. We don't touch the hand rails, but your waiter in the dining room is picking up dishes from another table while also serving you. So, if anyone at one of his tables is sick it's easy for him to pass that to you. Also, at the buffet, even if people wash on the way in, if they eat and then go back for more food they touch the serving utensils with dirty hands. The only way around this would be if the crew served up all the buffet items onto your plates.

Oh yes, and the crayons on the table. The first year we got the flu I am convinced my daughter contracted it from the crayons she was sharing with another little girl who was sick. We no longer use the table crayons.

Again, I'm sorry you got sick. The flu is terrible.
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Old 03-08-2018, 09:10 PM   #78
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The doctor - walking into the hospital room after one of our kids was born - gets some hand sanitizer and says to me, "You know this doesn't really do anything. "
My brother is an anesthesiologist and he says the same thing, hand sanitizer does nothing.
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I'm so sorry you got sick. My husband, daughter and I used to love to cruise in January or February. Until two years in a row we contracted Influenza A on a DCL and it was flat out miserable. We stopped cruising in January/February and now cruise in early October. Thankfully that's before flu season starts to pick up. Changing to October seems to have helped. Fingers crossed!

I honestly think the dining room, buffet, and hand rails are some of the main culprits. We don't touch the hand rails, but your waiter in the dining room is picking up dishes from another table while also serving you. So, if anyone at one of his tables is sick it's easy for him to pass that to you. Also, at the buffet, even if people wash on the way in, if they eat and then go back for more food they touch the serving utensils with dirty hands. The only way around this would be if the crew served up all the buffet items onto your plates.

Oh yes, and the crayons on the table. The first year we got the flu I am convinced my daughter contracted it from the crayons she was sharing with another little girl who was sick. We no longer use the table crayons.

Again, I'm sorry you got sick. The flu is terrible.
Thank you. That is what we got, Flu A. Sadly, I think my DH will never go on a cruise again. He is mad because he saw people with the flu the whole winter at his job, and then he got the flu from a cruise ship. Oh well. We have a lot of trips planned with no cruises in those plans currently.
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Thank you. That is what we got, Flu A. Sadly, I think my DH will never go on a cruise again. He is mad because he saw people with the flu the whole winter at his job, and then he got the flu from a cruise ship. Oh well. We have a lot of trips planned with no cruises in those plans currently.
I'm late to the party with this thread, but I wanted to thank you for sharing your experience, TexasChick. I am a person who rarely washes my hands. I touch everything, and I almost never get sick. I think the only time I had a serious illness (bedridden) was back in sixth grade. Just lucky, or maybe a good immune system. I don't know.

However, after reading some of the responses in this thread, I realized that I may be doing other people a disservice by not taking the time to wash my hands. It is something that I will definitely think about on future trips!

I have never been on a cruise, and I am not sure if it is for me. One of the things I love about Disney World is the massive amount of walking and the massive amount of stuff to do. I think I might get bored on a cruise. Maybe I'll try one some day!
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