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Old 05-13-2019, 11:57 AM   #51
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Originally Posted by carolina_yankee View Post
I hadn’t thought about APs being a contributing factor but I can see that. We are getting 3 trips off of this AP and 2 off the last one. We don’t renew but usually skip 9-12 months before a new cluster of trips begin. AP isn’t a conscious factor (points and other vacation desires are!), but we definitely cluster our traps to maximize their usage.

The 20% merchandise discount for AP holders is also a nice incentive to get an AP (though DVC members get that anyway, but it could affect renters). Indeed, adding up discounts this AP cycle for merchandise and dining, and our APs could almost be free.

I do think that 5 people in a studio coupled with smaller direct buy-ins and the ability to purchase small contracts resale are also major contributing factors. It seems to me that DVC people will cram as many people into a unit as they can before upgrading to bigger accommodations.

I sometimes wonder if it would make more sense for a 1BR to be 1.5x Studio points instead of the usual 2x. Base point costs on maximum accommodation and not just square footage.


Summarizing some of the issues discussed in the thread (HT OP) - I am adding low point season to the list
  • Bungalow/CC Cabin point allocation
  • Direct Sales shift to smaller direct contracts
  • Increase in Park Ticket Prices
  • Annual Pass Holders
  • Rental Demand
  • Relative Value vs 1 BR
  • Occupancy 5 vs 4
  • Large Point Holders ("Point Hogs") (I would call this "Speculators" tied to rental demand)
  • Adventure & Choice Season ("Value Seasons")- Sept 1 - Jan 30 (excluding Thanksgiving, Xmas, New Years)

Appears to me the economic laws of supply and demand are in play here with all of the above being contributing factors -
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