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Old 05-16-2019, 05:24 PM   #11
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Yep. Just ran into this for the first time yesterday. For years I've been booking as many days as I can using my 11 month window home resort points, then if I'm lucky, maybe adding a night or two within the the 7 months when my other resort's points are usable at the the place I want to stay.

In fact, I currently have more than one reservation that I made doing that just that, and they were merged AUTOMATICALLY soon after I added the extra day. I didn't even have to call. These are pending reservation so they were made within the last year originally.

I tried to do the same with a Dec reservation. Been waiting patiently, watching availability. Booked my extra night online yesterday and had a few minutes so I called to have it merged.

No dice. The CM told me I couldn't do it because I w/b circumventing the 11 month booking window. How, I asked? The room was (and still is) available at 7 months so how am doing anything wrong? She said I would have to cancel the whole reservation, hope none of the days get taken, then rebook using the other home resort's points.

I'm not going to risk doing that so I just canceled the extra night.

Seems like another "improvement" aimed at making life more miserable for DVC owners.
Yup. Another improvement that is worse for owners. Complete bull$hit.

I don't care if they can't merge the reservations into "one" -- just guarantee me that I won't have to move -- which DVC can't.
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Old 05-16-2019, 05:43 PM   #12
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This change makes no sense. If you have all of your nights booked and aren’t asking to reallocate, then why can’t they merge the reservations under one confirmation number? I honestly don’t understand the problem with doing that. What difference does it make to Disney? It makes a huge difference to the member because s/he wouldn’t have to worry about switching rooms.
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Old 05-16-2019, 05:50 PM   #13
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This change makes no sense. If you have all of your nights booked and arenít asking to reallocate, then why canít they merge the reservations under one confirmation number? I honestly donít understand the problem with doing that. What difference does it make to Disney? It makes a huge difference to the member because s/he wouldnít have to worry about having to switch rooms.
I also would like to know what "problem" this "solution" is aimed at fixing?

What is the logic behind it? Anyone know the rationale?
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This change makes no sense. If you have all of your nights booked and arenít asking to reallocate, then why canít they merge the reservations under one confirmation number? I honestly donít understand the problem with doing that. What difference does it make to Disney? It makes a huge difference to the member because s/he wouldnít have to worry about switching rooms.
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I also would like to know what "problem" this "solution" is aimed at fixing?

What is the logic behind it? Anyone know the rationale?
The issue IMO is DVC has no way of knowing once a 7 & 11 month reservation is "merged" if any of the points were used in the 11 month window and shouldn't be allowed to be moved off the reservation in a point reallocation. That's why the CM said this circumvents the 11 month rule. It's just bad Disney IT again, and a crappy result for members.

I have personally been effected by this multiple times and each time before it happened was told "chances are you won't have to move" believe me I did have to move rooms.
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Old 05-16-2019, 06:37 PM   #15
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The issue IMO is DVC has no way of knowing once a 7 & 11 month reservation is "merged" if any of the points were used in the 11 month window and shouldn't be allowed to be moved off the reservation in a point reallocation. That's why the CM said this circumvents the 11 month rule. It's just bad Disney IT again, and a crappy result for members.

I have personally been effected by this multiple times and each time before it happened was told "chances are you won't have to move" believe me I did have to move rooms.
Weird. The system knows what points were used for the reservation in total. Why can't it go that one extra step and identify which nights were booked using which points? Same principle, no? A little extra coding? Then if you cancel any night not booked with 7 months using non home resort points you get those back and not the home resort points used for the original reservation at 7 months.

This really affects us, and has never been an issue until now. We own (and stay 100% of the time now) at VGC. But we also have OKW points. So I book at VGC at 11 months using as many points as I have for as many nights as I can. Then I watch at the 7 month mark to see if an extra night or 3 show up by some miracle so I can extend our stay using the OKW points. Been doing it that way for years, including several reservation for this summer. Never had an issue before.

Guess I do now.
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:22 PM   #16
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This change makes no sense. If you have all of your nights booked and arenít asking to reallocate, then why canít they merge the reservations under one confirmation number? I honestly donít understand the problem with doing that. What difference does it make to Disney? It makes a huge difference to the member because s/he wouldnít have to worry about switching rooms.
I think the system will just reallocate and use points contract by contract if they are merged together The Cms would have to manually adjust what points are used or they have to be able to lock just the points that need to be based on home priority while restricting it from continuing to use up those contact points and to switch to other contacts. Ie..... it's all IT's fault.
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:32 PM   #17
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What makes no sense is that they were doing this with no problems up until this year. What was the catalyst that made the change necessary?
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What makes no sense is that they were doing this with no problems up until this year. What was the catalyst that made the change necessary?
Might have been part of adding the online modifying option.
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:53 PM   #19
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Might have been part of adding the online modifying option.
I agree. I also think it has to do with resale restrictions and the whole L14 change playing out.

Maybe Disney IT will fix this issue. But, only if a lot of people make a lot of noise about it, and I don't think that's going to happen.
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This policy is completely miserable, and yes it has affected me several times. AND it is complete bull$hit that you won't have to move -- because your reservations are "linked." I've been required to move several times now. If you don't have one continuous reservation w/one confirmation number you are not assured of not having to move.
Are you referring to any particular resort?

I have done many times, or rather say most of the time, never moved from villa.
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