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Old 06-19-2018, 04:23 PM   #31
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You didn't stick around for all the credits. The very last scene is of The Underminer cruising around in his tank thing. Sequel bait!

It absolutely cracks me up that some folks refuse to even see the movie because of some luminati man-hating Disney secret agenda. Just go see the movie. Mr Incredible is not portrayed weak. Pretty far from it actually. People see what they want to see and bring their own agenda to these things, I guess. Hahahaha!!!
I stayed for about half of the credits, and then looked online to see if there was an after credits scene and everyone said there wasn't one so we took off.

I wonder if they'll end up bringing him back in the 3rd movie.

I would wonder if they'll be a third movie -- but with the amount of money this movie raked in already, I would guess a third movie is all but guaranteed. Especially with everything jack-jack could do.
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Old 06-19-2018, 04:42 PM   #32
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Red face going to see movie tonight

I think we'll enjoy the movie....

I'll try to not analyze it too much, and munch on the popcorn.

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Old 06-19-2018, 07:18 PM   #33
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Epilepsy Warning: Incredibles 2 contains a sequence of flashing lights which may affect customers who are susceptible to photosensitive epilepsy or other photo-sensitivities.

Link: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/in...lepsy-warning/

FWIW, yes ... I had to cover my eyes in certain scenes. Flashing lights can trigger a migraine response. So be prepared to take this action and hold the position:
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Old 06-19-2018, 08:10 PM   #34
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My wife, daughter, daughter's friend, and I were able to get to the theater at 4:20 on Friday, before the crowds were large. What a treat! We all loved it.

I did not find the emphasis on Elastagirl at all anti-man.

The movie was thrilling, funny, and engaging. It currently has a 94% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, so it looks like a lot of others enjoy it, too.
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Old 06-20-2018, 01:07 AM   #35
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Wink We loved it

We had a great time.

Was cute movie

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Old 06-20-2018, 07:33 AM   #36
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It's not that he is weak. Just seems to blunder a "woman's" job. And the female has it all together and is the power figure.

This is in many Disney movies now. Some same similarly with the female being almost super human and the male has trouble or just standing and watching. This happened in rouge one and force.

It is 100% though about in a committee and always finds a way into the movies. Absolutely ajenda based.
Strongest character in stranger things..just happened to be a girl. But they didn't create idiot boys just to elevate the female character. Disney has a problem getting this right in the movies. They decided the social ajendas that should be in the movies to be relevant and the writers have to make it part of the story.
And I'm not surprised that younger audiences see this. Generally speaking most younger people already feel that there is equality between sexes, so when it added to the story, they are getting the opposite effect. It actually makes them see it and then think it is wrong to portray Mr. Fantastic like that. They don't want it it cartoon super hero action movie.

Anyway. It's a fun movie.
We're waiting on a rainy day to see this, but I am not sure why people have to make this about men vs women with being a child care giver. I'm a real stay at home parent, and have been since before giving birth. As a stay at home parent, I get how hard this job really is and to jump into it with little real experience (co-parenting on nights and weekends is not the same thing) prior.

Sometimes those who complain about story lines like this, don't realize that if the roles were reversed, the woman would likely blunder too. Heck I blunder now and then as it is! The difference between me and my spouse is I've had 13+ years being the one at home running things. I was eased into it little by little. It wasn't all dumped on me all at once, or I guarantee it wouldn't b pretty.

To me whenever a movie shows how hard being the stay at home parent is (like originally with Mr. Mom as an example), it doesn't show weakness of the parent, it shows really truly how much work the job is. How we often take stay at home parents for granted and think how simple the job really is.

Just a different perspective as a stay at home parent. FTR I see enough stay at home dad's now or ones at school pick up to know that truly the role does go to both men and women and I'm sure whenever there is a big change, it's difficult for the one who had a different role before.
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Old 06-20-2018, 10:18 AM   #37
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This movie is darker than the first. There didn't seem to be as many light hearted moments or super memorable lines. We left a bit disappointed compared to the first one. I thought we would be focusing on the underminer and exploring family dynamics as it related to Jack Jack and then the world at large. Didn't get that at all.
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Epilepsy Warning: Incredibles 2 contains a sequence of flashing lights which may affect customers who are susceptible to photosensitive epilepsy or other photo-sensitivities.

Link: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/in...lepsy-warning/

FWIW, yes ... I had to cover my eyes in certain scenes. Flashing lights can trigger a migraine response. So be prepared to take this action and hold the position:
We saw a warning sign when we went to our showing. I thought the fight among the flashing lights was one of the best, most visually inventive fight scenes in recent memory. That really stinks that you weren't able to enjoy it.
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We saw a warning sign when we went to our showing. I thought the fight among the flashing lights was one of the best, most visually inventive fight scenes in recent memory. That really stinks that you weren't able to enjoy it.
No big deal, for me. I'm so used to covering my eyes that I didn't even recall doing so until I saw the web page showing the new warnings. These warnings were not posted last week when we saw the I1+I2 (Wed).

For me, covering my eyes is a quick reaction. I generally do it w/out really thinking about it except for the lines at Costco. Grrrrr. I really struggle with the way they placed ceiling fans lower than the lights creating a great strobe effect around the check-out lines. If I am shopping alone, I put on my dark glasses and cup my hands around my eyes to block my peripheral vision. If shopping with my husband, I close my eyes entirely (behind the dark glasses) and grip the shopping cart allowing my husband to guide the cart and me along with it.
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We finally saw I2 last night. As we expected, and others mentioned here, it lacked the heart of other Pixar films. It was enjoyable, at least as much as the first. But both movies just leave something to be desired, particularly compared to Coco.

I don't know that Mr Incredible was portrayed as weak, or any more weak than he was in the first film. Elastigirl has always been the stronger of the two. Bob may have had the reknown, but he's always been a big oaf that was pretty much inept and caused as many problems as he solved. If you want to call out the overpowerment of a female by the weakness of a male, look at Violet and Dash. Violet was of the utmost importance in the film. They would not have succeeded without her. Dash was pointless. He just messed everything up.

I don't believe that the very small inclusion of the Underminer at the end of the credits is any foreshadowing. It just ended the credits the way they started, with a silouhette of the Underminer's drill car. An extremely far cry from a stinger we see at the end of the credits nowadays.

I don't get the confusion about Bao. It painfully clear that the Bao, though I'd argue it was a dumpling not a bao, was a metaphor for the woman's son. She was having empty nest syndrome, and was lonely because her husband was running off so quickly, so she imagined the bao as her son. It was doing the things that kids do as they grow up, and that moms and sons do together. Being an overbearing Chinese mother, she is overprotective of the "kid" and doesn't want him to leave. She's upset because she feels he doesn't need or want her anymore. So to keep him from leaving, she panics and eats him. Then she feels awful about it. Yes, it's a little dark. But it's again a metaphor for doing something extreme and hurting a relationship. I had thought maybe this was all because the kid had died somehow and she was feeling guilty and remorseful for a fight they had and the aftermath. Luckily that wasn't the case, and he was just moving on with his life to her dismay. I'd assume that anyone with kids can relate to all of this as their kids grow and become more independant.
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